when blacks are dropping out of science because they can't compete with the whites in science, that isn't producing critical maas. and so this -- mass. so this will go on for a very long time. how late am i? >> you're okay. >> so as rick mentioned, since grutter his research and other research has demonstrated that universities, in particular law schools, in particular the university of michigan undergraduate school and their plan was struck down by the supreme court in 2003 because they had an explicit racial point system. if you're black, you get -- if you're black or hispanic or asian, you get 20 points. if you had an a average instead of a b average in high school, you get 20 points, one full grade point. that was a little bit too explicit for justice o'connor's taste. she struck that down, but under the supposed holistic system that they substituted for it, they have used larger racial preferences at the university of michigan than they had before they were struck down. this doesn't seem to us to be consistent with the spirit of the supreme court decision, and the same has happened a